You'd need a cool down timer on the summon for SL to prevent what Staley is talking about. Maybe a minute or so?

Add machinegunner class from connor canyon and you all die.


Actually let's just do connor canyon league

Rules could prevent that type of strategy being used with SL

Certain areas on the map could be no summon areas or something, cool down timers etc etc.

Just refine it and make it work.

I think sl is a really bad idea and only increases skill gap, same as sniper

who gives a shit about skill gap at this point lol

Nice SL idea. Squads can finally break 200-300 kills a game now.

If I was leading I think I would have a better chance beating stronger squads with an SL. But yes, there would obviously need a cooldown on it.

I don't think it would increase skill gap, it would give players who are smart strategically but have no skill (me) a better chance. At this point, I hope people stop trying to help out the shit squads. Everyone know's they're going to get ass raped regardless... but for example this season...any squad aside from maybe Raw Dogs would benefit from it.

Basically time how long it would take to run from 1 side of the map to the other, that's what I would make cooldown. I'm willing to bet a lot of squads wouldn't even run one since they're so weak.

I don't see how it would make raping another team any worse than it is now, there are still going to be camp restrictions.. and you wouldnt be able to summon your whole team in a matter of 20-30 seconds.

Edit: Thinking about it, the only thing I would really even use SL for would be for scouting vision without risk of dying or summoning people who get picked off early for dumb deaths, or maybe a bait-style play. Anything else wouldn't be feasible with the class.

This is how I look at class changes:

I would like to have changes made ASAP. Add in new classes under a "test" title in the F11 screen. They wouldn't be allowed to be played during regular matches or playoffs this season. They would be for pubs and sb's to test them out. The reason for this is to generate pub population with different classes AND to test the new classes and changes now rather than wait 5 weeks in the off season

Pros:

- Little to no delay for next season for testing reasons
- Increased pub population during the week due to new classes and making infantry great again
- Might bring back other players who just got bored of the game. Any increase is good.
- Getting people involved in playing these classes generates higher population ingame but on site as well
- At the very least if it doesn't go through to next season, we have new classes in the game to play now

Cons:

- Some jackass might pick one of those classes in a game and get spec'd


IMO, there isn't any reason to not get the ball rolling on classes being added right now. They literally do no harm to the game or season if they're in for pub play. It only helps us out in the long run having them in the game for pub and we can have a quick smooth transition into next season with no delay.

I think we should throw up a couple ideas and add them all in. If there's two ideas for one class its not a problem to add in both versions. For example, one person said give ripper a move and shoot gun with 3-4 rounds, while someone else said give them faster speeds and a DE. We could add in two ripper classes, one with both updates. You could essentially add in 100 different classes if you want, but it can be done really easy. Name them accordingly to what they are (Ripper - DE/Ripper Move&shoot) and there will be no confusion. I'd love to hear what you guys think about it and I'm willing to dust off the editors to get some classes added in!

Just don't change how classes work add or take away
They already tried failed and gave up on changing class specifics like fire rate in season 3

I believe everything that has been mentioned is adding to try and make the other classes more appealing & to add more classes such as AT, Sniper that does 60hp snips, adding DE to nader/ripper ect ect

backs and zizzer will come back

I don't see how a weaker squad or even a smarter leader can take advantage of an SL. As soon as the opposing squad sees an SL. They will push and roll you over instantly. Good luck getting a single summon off. You'll be dead by then.

SL only benefits a strong squad vs a squad much lower tier because they can sacrifice a player and still hold the line. This allows them to keep up the raping and trapping so occasional deaths don't slow em down.

I hope SL gets implemented. I want to see how Apollo can take advantage of it :)

i didnt read anyones post , i just skimmed through and saw someone say snipers...

yo...

please bring back sniper school map w/ the snipazz

Yeah you can summon players away from death or say someone gets a good law kill to get the advantage... the sl just summons him right back, really just a poor idea to implement