https://youtu.be/0cr7SrX5NYI

for those that are wondering wtf went on here you go. Not defending my actions in the spec all what so ever but heres the break down.

P.S. very hyped up on pre workout atm

nice video I hope there are more spec alls so the forums are this active forever

Rehire Infinite asap

Now that preworkout has worn off and I can think semi clearly....

Infinite should have his powers restored, the rematch granted by dp should've never happened as chris abused his power due to him being mad that infinite was enforcing said rule. Forfeit win for Magic, the 2nd spec all wouldn't have happened.

If its a "troll rule" or one that no one likes it shouldn't be in the rules page at all. point blank end of story. Especially when you have a person like infinite who actually enforces all the rules( some times he makes mistakes but more often then not hes not a bad ref )

food for thought in the head staffs thinking process so i'll actually defend infinite's actions

dave added it in like season 6 or 7 to fuck with kippa and no one ever kept up with it. it should have been removed after that but cant keep up with every little detail just like how the in-game rules haven't been updated since like 2014. you guys must be pretty mental to think that we'd need a fucking "sportsmanship" rule for things like taunting lmao. (which dave didn't even do)

idc will forfeit, see you in playoffs gg no re

Sov 3-2 never forget

"1.1 Be respectful towards each other. Any player or spectator found to be harassing another player can be punished at the Referee or Staff member's discretion. Referees/Staff: Only take action if the harassed player requests, or if the match is impeded in some way.

1.2 Kippa Rule for Good Sportsmanship: Be nice to everyone, especially when determining who plays in a match and how bad you beat them (try not to run the score up on weaker squads by trapping them in their base - give them a chance...). Most of us have played a 17 year old game together for over a decade and many of us have lives, but still play this for fun and nostalgic purposes. Any violations of this rule, as determined by the League Administrator and/or Deputy Admins, may cause retroactive rules to be created to protect this little sanctuary that we call home. For the purpose of matches, Referees will be given discretion to decide punishments for Bad Sportsmanship. Suggested: Removal of player slot for 5 minutes, kill awarded, or location revealed.

Last Updated: 05/21/17"

The last updated portion makes that "nobody kept up with it" comment invalid.

the last updated part is the last time I updated the rules page to add the navigation portion at the top. not the actual rules itself. the sql timestamp auto updates any time a change is made to that page.

2. Rosters & Eligibility
2.1 Squad rosters must be under or equal to the salary cap of 650 to be eligible for a match.*

2.2 Squads must have a minimum of 9 players on their roster; with 14 being the maximum.

2.3 To play in a match, a player must be on the squad's roster on the USLzone.com website. If a player isn't squad-joined in-game, that player will not receive stats and that player will count as an NT (even if on the site roster). If a player is playing for a squad, but is not on the squad's roster on-site, they will be removed immediately if NT players are not allowed (Playoffs only).

2.4 A player may only play for one squad each week (regardless if NT or squad-joined). If a player is found to be playing for a second squad or on the roster for a second squad (regardless if they are different aliases), the player will be banned from playing for the rest of the season. This does not include having an alias on an inactive squad.

2.5 Players joining/leaving squads must wait 8 days before being allowed to play, unless NTs are allowed.

2.6 Roster lock TBD.

* Salary format only

Last Updated: 06/08/17

The next rule update has a different time stamp, so that is also making your argument seem invalid. Not talking shit just looking at each rule update, all the other one have the same time stamp as the 1st rule though

Yea I added the asterisk for salary shit because we're not in a salary format anymore because someone reminded me. I didn't read every single rule bro.

But that contradicts this statement, if you updated that rule to put in the asterisk therefore you're updating the page slightly, therefore all rules should have the same time stamp.

And shit I didnt even know about the kippa rule until I logged back on this morning to see wtf infinite was trying to enforce so I hear you.

The original 5/21 date is when I added the navigation portion to the top of the page and it auto generated that timestamp to EVERY section. Then on 6/8 someone reminded me that rule 2.1 was outdated so I just went in quickly and updated it. If you update an individual section it only updates the Last Updated for that one section.

Otherwise if the entire page is updated then every section will update. It's not like I was going through every rule to check if anything needed to be changed because I was on my phone at the time and I was at work and just did it in 10 seconds.

We can discuss which rules should or shouldn't exist all day.
The only thing that matters is the fact that Infinite was the referee and Champion abused his powers because he didn't like the calls. This should be at least a season long ban. If not, people will find more ways to disrupt matches because there are no consequences. BRB creating an alias that gives away the other teams coords, since there is no enforcement or consequences.

I'm no web dev or coder so I'm ignorant to that, just getting clarification.

the only thing that matters is that infinite was the referee and he abused his powers to disrupt the match

ftfy

it's a good thing we had a level headed head staff member there (dp) who was able to issue a rematch and you guys blew it. I was even removed from the rematch so you guys didn't "spite" anyone but yourselves.

Regardless you still abused your powers Chris. He did what was at his doscretion and you guys were up 30 and could have easily replaced the 2 specced. (at worst Dave would have been specced for 5 minutes due to the dumb "fake" rule you added) You know well enough that it had a chance to have been replayed so why spec all? Stop being petty for how much you don't care about this game. The jig is up.

c u next season

if it was a real rule you would have been specced in every game for the last 2 seasons. but it's common sense that we don't use a rule for "taunting" or sportsmanship because that's absurd.

we have this rule: 1.1 Be respectful towards each other. Any player or spectator found to be harassing another player can be punished at the Referee or Staff member's discretion. <b><i>Referees/Staff: Only take action if the harassed player requests, or if the match is impeded in some way.</i></b>

did chica ask for dave to be specced? no. did dave impede the match in any way? no. all he did was playfully joke around with chica like normal people do on this game. and infinite took it upon himself to abuse powers for a laugh and cause the match to be impeded. we had all pressed f12 at the time anyways. I just expedited the process so an actual unimpeded match could have been played at my discretion since Magic was too busy trying to cheat instead of answer me.

This is so dumb. Dave got specced for "aahahahahah Chica". I have no clue why people are justifying infinite for doing this when mecca was trying to talk shit to backs and my second snakes favorite member "see you in playoffs" does this every game for like 6 seasons or so. This whole argument is people defending "ahahahha chica" is worthy of losing a slot and playing the game out against the squad that has the very two players who can actually resolve the situation.

Can anyone on magic tell me why they are mad at the first spec all? Mizz/Fausto are notified that infinite is breaking the rules when no battle is commencing. The two people who can actually take action aren't doing anything. Hopefully Eric was leading for this game because if Fausto made the call to actually push our base 7v8 without our med, that is worse than what champ did. You guys cut the lead from 28 or so to 19 with a 7v8 when idc was trying to resolve the issue. No one is going to play out a 7v8 under those circumstances.

Only one person should get punished. Champ already got banned for the rematch. Don't really mind eric doing the second spec all since he knew those stats were false and sol should've went 5-4. Infinite trolled this game for sure. He got mad at champion because he was calling him an idiot for telling him to put Switzerland in even if he wasn't register on site. I'll help ref the remainder of the season if infinite actually gets punished. One idiot ruined the game, that's it. Fausto at worst was unaware of the situation and took awhile to make a decision. Mizz can't take away someones power unless Fausto makes the call.

Oh yea did you guys know that there are still people justifying "ahahahahahah chica" as a legitimate argument for dave getting specced out. Infinite should lose his powers, that's it. No one is that stupid to believe he was acting neutral. Don't really care about the punishments or Fausto wanting to step away from squadding. At worst you just need a safety net. That's it. Problem solved. Oh yea didn't Mizz remove y's power for going past the rape lines in a sb? Didn't mizz prize chica mar's sniper in a public arena and abuse that? Let's not pretend if this happened to Magic, Mizz would actually take action. Might as well bring mecca's issue as well. Why are people like palm/mizz randomly prizing/modding people that have nothing to do with the league? Like eric said, Mizz was going to spec all anyways. I'm not sure why you're changing your argument now eric. Fausto/Whoever agreed to resolve the situation with a rematch. Make all the excuses you want but we didn't have champion in and you had the momentum since we got screwed and were up +30 with over 15mins left and get to start a new game 0-0.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzCckjm_k8
18:50 into LW vs Allegiance and infinite lets that slide. I still can't believe there are people defending infinite. You honestly have to hate champion a lot, one season ban LOL, to defend infinite. In before someone goes through mental gymnastics to prove infinite is in the right.

Also, If you're going to use the rule you have to clarify why you are speccing him and give the punishment, You can't just spec him and say it was at your discretion and not tell what the punishment is.

"Referees will be given discretion to decide punishments for Bad Sportsmanship. Suggested: Removal of player slot for 5 minutes, kill awarded, or location revealed."

Correct me if I'm wrong, I was not in the captains chat til after this all happened. Did he let IDC know he was speccing Dave? Did he tell them the punishment? Cause if so I completely missed that. Only saw him say for Discretion and then reason being Taunting.