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so is nike the theme for forum mafia?
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The problem here is, I'm not boycotting Nike, I'm aware of the situation with their production but it isn't going to force me to throw away/burn apparel given to me by my family.
And it definitely is your right to protest against Nike, I just find it hilarious you are up in arms about Kaepernick sharing his rights to protest while supposedly protesting yourself... yea hypocrisy...
And you know what happens when a few bad apples are in a basket full of good ones? they spread the rot and slowly but surely make all the rest of the apples bad.
And it definitely is your right to protest against Nike, I just find it hilarious you are up in arms about Kaepernick sharing his rights to protest while supposedly protesting yourself... yea hypocrisy...
And you know what happens when a few bad apples are in a basket full of good ones? they spread the rot and slowly but surely make all the rest of the apples bad.
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And It's clear you aren't nice to people who express their rights, as you are boycotting a company based on an individual expressing his rights. I'd hate to see the scenario of you asking someone questions without them responding. I think you were at one point in the good batch of apples, but have been contaminated.
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The problem here is, I'm not boycotting Nike, I'm aware of the situation with their production but it isn't going to force me to throw away/burn apparel given to me by my family.
And it definitely is your right to protest against Nike, I just find it hilarious you are up in arms about Kaepernick ...
I'll break up each line separately.
1) Again, I can boycott Nike for whatever reason I want to and I am choosing to do for all of the reasons I have mentioned (there is plenty of reading material for you to find that information).
2) Again, you think I am upset because Kaepernick was simply conducting a protest. You can't call me a hypocrite when you don't even understand (or refuse to understand) what I am upset about. (Also again, there is plenty of reading material for you to find that information).
3) With your logic, let's hypothetically say that someone in my department was unjustified in the use of deadly force while in the line of duty. And....that is somehow going to make me eventually do the same thing? You are grasping at straws.
1) Again, I can boycott Nike for whatever reason I want to and I am choosing to do for all of the reasons I have mentioned (there is plenty of reading material for you to find that information).
2) Again, you think I am upset because Kaepernick was simply conducting a protest. You can't call me a hypocrite when you don't even understand (or refuse to understand) what I am upset about. (Also again, there is plenty of reading material for you to find that information).
3) With your logic, let's hypothetically say that someone in my department was unjustified in the use of deadly force while in the line of duty. And....that is somehow going to make me eventually do the same thing? You are grasping at straws.
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Also that shirt is comfy as fuck, whichever kid made it, I give them props.
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And It's clear you aren't nice to people who express their rights, as you are boycotting a company based on an individual expressing his rights. I'd hate to see the scenario of you asking someone questions without them responding. I think you were at one point in the good batch of apples, but have b ...
Wrong. Again.
I am not boycotting a company because someone is simply expressing their rights. Don't you understand that? I've explained it over and over and over again. I don't even get your second sentence and your third sentence is just dumb.
I am not boycotting a company because someone is simply expressing their rights. Don't you understand that? I've explained it over and over and over again. I don't even get your second sentence and your third sentence is just dumb.
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1) You are against someone expressing their rights, and your defense is you are expressing your rights. Do you not see the irony in this?
2) What are you upset about then? How bad he is at football?
3) If someone in your department kills someone unjustly and gets away with it with a paid vacation and a department transfer what fear would you have in killing someone? If said officer told you what he/she did was wrong would you tell your superiors? or would you try to protect him because he is your brother/sister in arms? I don't have hands on experience with said scenario but I'm informed in the cases of police protecting police.
Who will police the police?
Who will watch the watchers?
2) What are you upset about then? How bad he is at football?
3) If someone in your department kills someone unjustly and gets away with it with a paid vacation and a department transfer what fear would you have in killing someone? If said officer told you what he/she did was wrong would you tell your superiors? or would you try to protect him because he is your brother/sister in arms? I don't have hands on experience with said scenario but I'm informed in the cases of police protecting police.
Who will police the police?
Who will watch the watchers?
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Anyways, it's clear you are dead set in your stance.
Kaepernick sucks at football and nike are a slave company that supports unjust firing/banning of individuals from their professions.
/end useless conversation.
Kaepernick sucks at football and nike are a slave company that supports unjust firing/banning of individuals from their professions.
/end useless conversation.
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1) You are against someone expressing their rights, and your defense is you are expressing your rights. Do you not see the irony in this?
2) What are you upset about then? How bad he is at football?
3) If someone in your department kills someone unjustly and gets away with it with a paid vacat ...
1) I am not against someone expressing their rights. Of course people can do this. I take issue with the content of his expression. Which I am also allowed to do. What don't you understand? Are you being ignorant on purpose? Are you just trolling? I am lost.
2) Read. My. Posts. If not, don't ask me things I have already said over and over again.
3) You realize that officers get put on paid leave only during the investigation right? The officer is not going to be punished (unpaid leave) until wrong doing is uncovered. That is like saying we are investigating a missing persons case and there are multiple persons of interest. Are we going to arrest all of those people (punish them) and then conduct the investigation after the arrest? Of course not. That would be ridiculous. The same applies to police officers. This is so incredibly obvious.
3 cont.) If you read my posts, you would also see that officers who are found unjustified in the use of deadly force don't get transferred. Are you fucking kidding me? This doesn't happen. Anywhere. If an officer is found unjustified in the use of deadly force...they...are...arrested. Stop making shit up. Also, I don't need you to question me or my integrity when I have already stated how I feel about cops who commit crimes or use deadly force without justification.
I have personally managed cases that led to charges being filed against cops (one of my own subordinates, and somewhat recently) and testified against cops including one of my previous supervisors, who were on trial for crimes they committed. Fortunately these instances didn't involve the use of deadly force but nonetheless, they needed to go to jail and I played my part in making sure that happened.
The conversation can end that is fine. I just hope that you get rid of your conspiracy theories, your extremist and almost radical views and begin to support all the good that is done by the profession you hope to be a part of one day. Do all that while also not losing hope for the profession just because the media and prominent figures want you to believe their is a nationwide epidemic, based on everything but facts.
Don't be a sheep.
2) Read. My. Posts. If not, don't ask me things I have already said over and over again.
3) You realize that officers get put on paid leave only during the investigation right? The officer is not going to be punished (unpaid leave) until wrong doing is uncovered. That is like saying we are investigating a missing persons case and there are multiple persons of interest. Are we going to arrest all of those people (punish them) and then conduct the investigation after the arrest? Of course not. That would be ridiculous. The same applies to police officers. This is so incredibly obvious.
3 cont.) If you read my posts, you would also see that officers who are found unjustified in the use of deadly force don't get transferred. Are you fucking kidding me? This doesn't happen. Anywhere. If an officer is found unjustified in the use of deadly force...they...are...arrested. Stop making shit up. Also, I don't need you to question me or my integrity when I have already stated how I feel about cops who commit crimes or use deadly force without justification.
I have personally managed cases that led to charges being filed against cops (one of my own subordinates, and somewhat recently) and testified against cops including one of my previous supervisors, who were on trial for crimes they committed. Fortunately these instances didn't involve the use of deadly force but nonetheless, they needed to go to jail and I played my part in making sure that happened.
The conversation can end that is fine. I just hope that you get rid of your conspiracy theories, your extremist and almost radical views and begin to support all the good that is done by the profession you hope to be a part of one day. Do all that while also not losing hope for the profession just because the media and prominent figures want you to believe their is a nationwide epidemic, based on everything but facts.
Don't be a sheep.
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man I thought there was a lot of interest in forum mafia and then I actually opened the thread.
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Zimmerman is going to be the 3rd party and cops are all arsonist and can burn one article of Nike clothing per night phase.
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Also there shouldn't be many power roles for town maybe Al Sharpton, and Generic Berkley White Liberal while the rest of them would be vanilla brownies.
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"I take issue with the content of his expression"
Is that because you're a cop and hes trying to shed light on the fact that yes there are an unprecedented amount of people dying due to excessive force? Eric Garner comes to mind as just an example. Im not saying all cops are bad and neither is Kaepernick in his protest.
Your view is skewed due to the fact that you are a cop, im not saying you're wrong to believe what you believe and like Kaep*(stupid autocorrect) you have the right to protest or speak your mind but the irony in people getting mad at someone utilizing their rights is quite the eyesore.
Is that because you're a cop and hes trying to shed light on the fact that yes there are an unprecedented amount of people dying due to excessive force? Eric Garner comes to mind as just an example. Im not saying all cops are bad and neither is Kaepernick in his protest.
Your view is skewed due to the fact that you are a cop, im not saying you're wrong to believe what you believe and like Kaep*(stupid autocorrect) you have the right to protest or speak your mind but the irony in people getting mad at someone utilizing their rights is quite the eyesore.
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There is no doubt we can all find examples of unjustified (or unnecessary) uses of deadly force. I would never deny that....obviously. The protest is based off of a false narrative that the amount of people dying to excessive force is unprecedented, a narrative you have bought into based upon the media highlighting a dozen or so instances of controversial (justified and unjustified) police use of force incidents.
Look at all the violent rioting that took place in Ferguson because of a police officers use of deadly force. The president at the time, members of congress, all bought into the "hands up don't shoot" narrative (that turned out to be untrue and a lie). There was outrage because Michael Brown, an unarmed, teenage, minority, was shot and killed by a white police officer. Ferguson experienced violent protests....for weeks. Businesses were destroyed. Officers were attacked. Protesters (rioters) were over taking public buildings. The officer involved was not only cleared of wrong doing by the grand jury after reviewing evidence and an investigation completed by an independent third party, a democrat controlled U.S. Attorney General's Office cleared the officer of any wrong doing after conducting their third party investigation. But to this day, regardless of the facts, the officer is perceived as being unjustified is his use of force.
My view isn't skewed because I am a cop (don't forget, I wasn't a cop before I was one). My view has to do with the actual reality of the situation.
The false narrative that I am so upset with (that Kaepernick was portraying), that police officers across the nation are racist, murderers of minorities, etc., only hurts the communities that these protesters claim they are trying to help. That is the reality.
Look at all the violent rioting that took place in Ferguson because of a police officers use of deadly force. The president at the time, members of congress, all bought into the "hands up don't shoot" narrative (that turned out to be untrue and a lie). There was outrage because Michael Brown, an unarmed, teenage, minority, was shot and killed by a white police officer. Ferguson experienced violent protests....for weeks. Businesses were destroyed. Officers were attacked. Protesters (rioters) were over taking public buildings. The officer involved was not only cleared of wrong doing by the grand jury after reviewing evidence and an investigation completed by an independent third party, a democrat controlled U.S. Attorney General's Office cleared the officer of any wrong doing after conducting their third party investigation. But to this day, regardless of the facts, the officer is perceived as being unjustified is his use of force.
My view isn't skewed because I am a cop (don't forget, I wasn't a cop before I was one). My view has to do with the actual reality of the situation.
The false narrative that I am so upset with (that Kaepernick was portraying), that police officers across the nation are racist, murderers of minorities, etc., only hurts the communities that these protesters claim they are trying to help. That is the reality.
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