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victim 3w ago 14 replies 637 views
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The zones have been updated to the following settings:

- Ranger MP5 magazine reduced from 20 to 15
- Ranger added delays between weapons
- Removed armor from AT; HP to 100
- Increased damage for Grenade Launcher on direct hit
- Demolitions shotgun on independent reload now
- LAW changed to very old LAW shrap (circular splash, slow shrap)

Please try to test these class changes out over the next week and report how they feel. None of these changes are set in stone and they are all things that community members have asked for over the last few seasons. We listen to all stakeholders and we'd like to try out some balance adjustments over the off-season.
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Great news
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All these people complaining about off season changes, yet no one is giving feedback here in the space provided by the administration. I don't see the point of doing it behind closed doors in a capts channel on discord either, if that's whats happening now. For CTF, we utilized the threads functionality on discord for the various changes and we had tons of engagement there. Perhaps USL can utilize threads as well, so there is an official space for community involvement. This way there is one place and we don't have scattered thought.

That being said, I see that AT was reverted again, meaning 80HP and armor has returned, but we only had this window to test it with that weird LAW. Can you please revert the AT again to 100hp without armor, so we can test in mixes/sbs with the LAW we always use?
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Agreed. With the introduction of Discord, the website forums became pretty obsolete but I think they can still be utilized for discussions like this. Players on squads may not always share the same view as their Captain which is why I think a player appointed staff member would be great. Someone who is willing to coordinate with all the players and have a voice in the staff channels who doesn't have the staff's interest in mind, but the players'. I think it's important to post these threads to Discord so people know they are here and get people talking.
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In case anyone hasn't seen the recent updates:

- LAW reverted to previous season LAW
- Assault Trooper reverted to previous season Assault Trooper (80 hp with armor)
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Great changes to Ranger.

As far as AT, I haven’t had too much time to test it but Pistor has been doing ok at it and haven’t heard him complain much.

Nader feels strong and that’s okay though, nothing wrong with every season changing it’s meta right? Every game has this happen with different seasons.

I’d like to ask about sniper ammo color. It’s not visible and resembles shotgun ammo too much. I’d like to see this be changed to just a solid teal color maybe? Or a different random graphic? It’s a big deal for us snipers.

Thank you guys.
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From yetti on discord:

i think if you are going to nerf ranger again you need to figure out the cause of why ranger is busted and how to nerf it properly instead of throwing random numbers in there praying to fix it. the reason why rangers are so good is because they can spam non stop. its not about increaeing reload time even more of what it curerntly is at you will just keep breaking it. take a look at AT for an example it has a 30 second timer on when you can dash. Just increase the timer on throwing knives to like 10-15 seconds like the AT has their little kit. because the throwing knives are what is making rangers broken. you can spam them non stop and so if im desperate and i need to kill somone and i fuckup guess what knife knife knife oh hey i have my MP5 again so there is an endless loop where yo ucan spam. The MP5 is needed how it is you cant keep nerfing that shit your literally going to remove bullets to make rangers reload LONGer and have LESS bullets to shoot? less than a medic? its a freaken dps class not a healing support class. the mp5 has to have the same . its literally already nerfed it takes long to reload it has short range its not like you can just become god mode. the sniper that you are using also isnt even that powerful it tickles compared to a true sniper so you already have a weak class with nerfed distance on mp5 nerfed reload time nerfed sniper . if you keep nerfing the time on reload you jsut ruining the class and making it unplayable. You may not like me or think im dumb and i dont know how many time i have to try to suggest help and tell you that i have experience tuning classes but tthe root of the problem is the knife itself. if you give hte knife a 15 second cooldown so it cant be spammed and you can try to get a clutch knife throw people wont be spamming that shit non stop and the class become a normal class just like everything else. All of the captain need to read this message and think about it and suggest that be the push to see if its balanced. and gues swhat if im wrong about this ill look like a retard and you can all make fun of me and never take any of my advice again. ban me from discord if it doesnt work i dont give a shit. but stop ignoring my suggestions like i dont matter
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You can snipe, throwing knife, shoot your entire clip of mp5, and your snipe and knife are up again.
I think it's fine now, keep it 20 mp5 and keep the reload nerfs.

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victim wrote:
The zones have been updated to the following settings: - Ranger MP5 magazine reduced from 20 to 15 - Ranger added delays between weapons - Removed armor from AT; HP to 100 - Increased damage for Grenade Launcher on direct hit - Demolitions shotgun on independent reload now - LAW changed to v ...
I did not know there was a post on here about it. I don't check the site as much since it isn't updated as much as discord is. I know it was up for a week but I need more time to be able to get an idea how I feel about those settings. I definitely wanted some of those. Like especially if you're going to change law and one of my issues is that AT can't be killed by law. It will take some time to adjust. Why is it just a week? lol? I think I played in one sb/mix last week? To me like the game faded early last week when I'd be around. Granted I'm not on a squad so yeah yeah yeah. But there are mixes after squad battles and I didn't play in any which is fine but point being...more time please. Maybe a week is enough for everyone else lol?
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Gimp wrote:
All these people complaining about off season changes, yet no one is giving feedback here in the space provided by the administration. I don't see the point of doing it behind closed doors in a capts channel on discord either, if that's whats happening now. For CTF, we utilized the threads functiona ...
You understand why it is difficult for me to criticize anything if I haven't actually play tested it. I would like to be able to play test AT without armor and have more time to compare old/new laws. Why does AT need armor again so soon? Lots of classes get laws but there is only 1 AT in sb so if I don't play it as much and someone better should play it in a sb...well you get the point. I'd argue AT without armor needs more time to test than laws even due to class restrictions. Is there some general consensus that nah says 'fuck that give AT armor back'?



oh well I guess I'm too late so fuck me
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I did not know there was a post on here about it. I don't check the site as much since it isn't updated as much as discord is. I know it was up for a week but I need more time to be able to get an idea how I feel about those settings. I definitely wanted some of those. Like especially if you're goin ...
All the news that gets posted to Discord comes from the site. You can visit the site to comment on it as just a heads up for the future.
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Tested out ranger in two sbs last night on Apollo's Map (Tucker's Playhouse)

Ranger is fine with the current settings imo (20 mp5 rounds and slightly nerfed reloads)

What I noticed was that you can't just spam snipes/knives constantly, you have to be slightly more mindful about when you're sniping and throwing a knife.
The MP5 is still up constantly so it's not like there's moments of loads where you don't get anything (see: Marine/LMG)

I think the current ranger should be the ranger going into the season, it's definitely a nerf, but the nerf was needed.
The TTK is still way higher than marine and more on par with AT/LMG.
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Ranger is the most entertaining class to watch as well. Keep it high TTK.
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Ranger nerf seems fine. Loses out to AT and LMG if you miss your knife. Is AT getting a nerf too or it was decided it wasnt necessary?
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LMG beat ranger before nerf too imo

with AT I think you can still win if you hit a long rifle shot before they close the distance