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What's in a name?
Ace Jul 14, 2024 15 replies 594 views
A
OP Game Admin 🛡️ x2 🤝
The case of alias ownership is usually a straightforward process. As a continuation of the official release, FreeInfantry both shares in and continues that lineage. The issue before me, however, presents a unique circumstance involving one of the few legitimate counterarguments to the notion of <i>ad infinitum</i> ownership as it pertains to one’s primary alias.

NewJack has a valid claim to request the alias remain in his possession: he owned and utilized it as his primary alias during SOE for nearly a decade and held prominent positions within CTFPL, including League Admin for multiple years. As a result, many players know and refer to him as Joe. There is precedent for players obtaining their primary alias from SOE upon arriving to FreeInfantry.

Hairy’s claim to have the alias returned to him is also valid: he has owned the alias for roughly the past 12 years on FreeInfantry, during which time he has competed in USL over many seasons and logged more hours on the alias than all others on his account combined. At the time the alias was transferred from him, the alias would not qualify for transfer under either “lifetime hours” or “account last used” criteria.

Retrieving aliases has been easy in the past because in almost every instance, they were either:

a) deliberately being held by a friend for the person retrieving them, or
b) created specifically to impersonate the original owner.

It is in the latter example that an important distinction emerges. Harry has never used the alias to impersonate NewJack. Instead, he chose it for a simple and rational reason: Joe is also his legitimate given name.

If someone were to create the alias Unit92, for example, it would strain credulity due to the strong associations it has to Infantry as well as its lack of real-world prominence. Given names do not share this trait. I can personally attest to myriad common Western given names being frequently requested over the years. It is this reason why Hairy was able to play under the alias Joe for so many years without this becoming a much larger issue in the past. This would also have been a very different discussion had NewJack shown up to ask for this alias closer to when Hairy began using it.

I want to respect and always consider SOE history. In a perfect world where the SOE and FI databases were linked, this would never have become an issue due to the high hour count initially logged by NewJack. But a perfect world we do not inhabit, and the last 12 years of FreeInfantry cannot be summarily erased.

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Based on the above, and after much discussion with Military Police, we are in agreement that more damage would be done by forcefully depriving Hairy of his primary alias. As a result, the alias Joe will be returned to Hairy.
R
Head Commentator ⭐ x2 👑 Kays Krew 3
I appreciate the thought that went into this response, and into this most unusual of issues.

Personally, I think Hairy should voluntarily give the name back to "Joe", a person all the old SOE players knew under that name. But like you all, I wouldn't want anyone to force him to do that.

Hopefully we can now put this issue behind us.
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Yep makes sense to me. Let’s take away the alias Joe has used for years when this game had thousands of players to instead give it to a guy named “Harry” because he got it first before Joe could in a game that has had tens of players since then 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
M
League Analyst 💎 x10 🥇 Gentlemen
Nice ruling Ace.

"before joe could" is a little disingenuous considering that was a 12 year span lol
A
OP Game Admin 🛡️ x2 🤝
snppmp wrote:
Yep makes sense to me. Let’s take away the alias Joe has used for years when this game had thousands of players to instead give it to a guy named “Harry” because he got it first before Joe could in a game that has had tens of players since then 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
If you read the initial post, time was an element that was factored into our consideration.

Hairy had been using the alias on FreeInfantry for roughly 12 years before NewJack created an account and inquired into whether he could obtain it.

It wasn't a simple matter of someone beating him to it. If he had shown up closer to the initial creation date and requested it at that time, this would have likely resulted in a different decision being reached.
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I thought Hairy went with JoeT or Joe T for a while instead of just Joe?

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Mecca wrote:
Nice ruling Ace. "before joe could" is a little disingenuous considering that was a 12 year span lol
I don’t think you know what that word means. Whether it happened six months ago or 12 years ago, Joe was unable to make the alias because a guy named Hairy beat him to it.

Hairy took the alias because it was available. It’s disingenuous to believe Harry made that alias because it was his name when he was probably fully aware that it was unavailable when the game had a population (hence JoeT).
M
League Analyst 💎 x10 🥇 Gentlemen
Newjack couldn't take the alias because he hasn't logged on since SOE*

Fixed it for you
T
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can i have the alias gay? if not it's a hate crime
S
Joe did login since then, but not on that alias since a guy named Hairy made it first.
R
⭐ x7 🤝
Hairy nuts is in here chillin on the alias cheese crisp. Why does he care about the alias NewJack made as his identity while he was in command of an entire league?
S
💎 x12 good guys
Ace is Fair
Referee ⭐ x4 💎 Kays Krew 3
Ace has always been a class act, whatever he decides I'm good with.
Deputy Administrator 🛡️ x1 🔱 🥉 Clique CO
Yea I mean both sides had pretty legit arguments here so I can't say I have an opinion one way or another. Thanks for the sound judgement call Ace. I don't envy your position for the flak you would catch for going either way with the decision, but everyone appreciates you and your unbias judgement.
M
League Analyst 💎 x10 🥇 Gentlemen
snppmp wrote:
Joe did login since then, but not on that alias since a guy named Hairy made it first.
Joe said in his own words he hasn't been on SOE
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Head Referee ⭐ x3 💎 🥈 Monkey Business
I think they should each get half the alias to be fair to everyone. NewJack can have Jo and Hairy can have e