I agree with Mizz- in that a map will not be created and inputted with ample time for this season. 6 weeks from the 21st of May is a different outlook; there will be ample time for that.

In regards to classes: what are everyone's thoughts currently?

As far as I have seen, sniper is a great addition... I mean they have it at what? 60HP shots?... with a slow moving character... and no nades... how is that overpowered.

VOTE SNIPER YES #voteyestosniper

Take out running ripper gun and put in pdw or deagle and prob good to go

Backs good input from just playing pub.

Sniper was useless and added nothing to the game play both pub and sbs. Would just force passive SL game play if anything. AT is similar to Sapper that they are more of a novelty. Better for pub game play. Nader changes are good.

Ripper movement speed is pretty good but the secondary weapon is meh. I think it's a good balance decision for runner gunner though. The movement speed is the only thing worth caring about in making ripper a bit more viable. Ripper shouldn't be made or break by giving it a better close range weapon, its value comes from long to mid distance skirmishing and rewarding good re-positioning.

Med with a maser

What about stim pack kit....like to create stim packs

Sov you had a sniper in the SB and what happened ... you made him change... why? Because he was over powered? Or because you found him useless? If it's the latter then what's the problem of having it? Won't that make squads who use a sniper basically be one person down?

Sniper promotes passive game play?... I saw you guys sit inside that building for about 6 mins!!!! If you had a sniper do you think the team outside of it could keep you in there??? NO. They would have ran and let you leave the building.

Alright, I'll change the runner gun to something else. Pdw most likely would be the better choice over deagle, or maybe auto pistol(single) if pdw doesn't work out. I think any other weapon would be a bit over powering ripper though. I'll add these changes once I get home if Palm doesn't see this before I do.

Even though I had fun lighting people up with sniper, getting a double snipe soon as I go sniper, definitely isn't for usl. Who else agrees/disagres besides who posted here?

In regards to what sov was saying about sniper being useless, it is now due to the min range being like a coord away, if it was like SL sniper then it'd be more viable. However I agree with mizz, sniper just isnt for USL. thats why it was never re-added after it got taken out season 6 or 7 of SOE(if memory serves me right)

edit: right now I see ripper changes staying(i kinda liked the burst on the move but if other people want pdw thats not bad either). Nader's 40s still need slight adjustment in damage and AT is about 50/50.

I just don't understand how saying sniper is useless means they should take it out... if sniper is so weak and basically means a team is down one then who has the right to tell people they can't go Sniper if that'll make their squad worse?... why not make the class available and let people CHOOSE to play it or not?

Mizz, make sniper 60HP shot, no one shot kill to meds, and give rifle less ammo.

its already a 60hp shot backs

clearly it says that on the first post of this thread.

Ok so a 60HP shot is good and fair... If sov says a sniper is "useless" then he shouldn't use one... what if other squads want to change up the chances of their squad winning by adding a sniper? I think it should be an option for all squads. Honestly snipers can get man handled in USL if the other squad plays it correctly... So make sniper an option! That's it!

i think sniper adds another element in usl.. I vote yes to trump and yes to snipers

I'm fine with snipers let's poll it

I don't think we should even poll it... I haven't heard ONCE that "snipers are over powered and unfair"... all I've heard is that they are useless and underpowered! And will change strategy... why is changing strategy bad?... lead your squad how you want to lead it. If the other team has a sniper then adjust... just like you adjust when the other squad has a Nader... I don't get it.

I think we need to test it for awhile before its implemented into league matches, but season starts soon.. so maybe next ssn.

Apollo don't break my heart like this.

Runner gunner is fine mizz. The only person who really was upset with that change was sol who was trying to use it as a primary weapon to kill people aaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha.

Apollo is right. One day of sbs, and I'm not sure any squad really tried to play with a sniper/AT. I think nader/ripper changes should be only considered for this season.