Grenadier - Both GL, Normal GL 1 shots. Bouncy GL bounces max of 2-3 times. Does less damage the more bounces it takes.

Medic- Leave it as it is.

AT - Seems balanced now and more playable with a longer range on it's gun.

LMG - Revert back to normal, give the gun Less recoil/spread. No need for laws. I do agree maybe Incin grenades will help the class be a little more versatile and not put it above or on Marines level.(this will get polled)

Sniper - 80hp, bullets still do the same damage. Do we still want to test the throwing knife with it??

Ripper - Remove runner gunner. Give it a .5-1% damage boost.

No other classes needed at this point.

Season start date - 11/11

Map Rotation - Apollos/Bombs/EC/KR (I don't think it's worth polling about KP at this point. Majority of the player base is against it.)

For sides - I know Dueling was brought up but I think this could set matches off track. I'm not opposed to sticking with Coinflip. (We can poll this as well)

Is this news? It seems like a bunch of questions. Edit: not trying to sound critical, genuinely wondering if you accidentally tagged it as news, because it certainly doesn't read like news

I put it as news so people can see it on the front page and then have a discussion about it as well. Since every time we make these it gets convoluted by people arguing with one another. There can't be any it's not there so I can't see it the way I posted it.

Back to reduced damage per bounce huh. We've already deduced that this is possible but not nearly as cleanly as required.

We can leave it as it is. I know you've reduced the bouncing already right? I'm going out for a little bit. I'll be on tonight to touch base with you.

Give sapper 2 laws
It’s the explosive class without the best explosion

Also let’s play hellspawn new map. It’s just regular season let’s see if we like this more or less than kp

Also about picking sides. Let the lower seed team choose which side of the map they want. Let the stronger higher seeds prove it. At least for regular season can do duel for side and coin flip for playoff

You should still poll for KP.

testing new maps IN season is an awful idea, look at KP last season they just added it with hardly any testing and it turned out badly.

LMG without law is still not going to be played at all unfortunately. Could reduce clip by 10 and give it a LAw.

there's already a class like that. it's called Marine...

what's this fascination with giving a LAW to the class that's already OP? people are just playing LMG wrong and they think it's unplayable.

Everyone avoids the test zone like the plague, what was even tested throughly?

again if it's so op why did less than 5% of the population select it last season

they go off of SB results between weebs and mean girls slob lulz

it's the only way MG will get better right?

I see no changes wake up in the morning and I ask myself, is life worth living should I blast myself?

because only people like easoe and yosh play it correctly lol

The people of usl want the old map/side selection pre coinflip/duels

let's just go back to home team chooses the side so there's no more coinflip/duel drama. it worked for how many years (pre FI)?

We can do that as well. Again none of these are set in stone yet. I basically just made a new thread with things I've read from the discussions. Testing is still going on. Use the test zone. Come back with suggestions rather than arguments between select few.

Can we look at removing bombs map and having a 3 map rotation? (KR, EC, Mine) Nobody scrims on bombs map ever. Wondering if the majority would prefer to just omit it.